EGPD Chief Robert Lehner on concerns of crime at the possible future Elk Grove Casino

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    I contacted Elk Grove Police Department Chief Robert Lehner to ask him about the concerns of crime and the possinle future Wilton Rancheria Casino in Elk Grove. His comments on the issue are below.

    As part of evaluating potential effects of a casino on Elk Grove, we are performing a fairly extensive review of casinos and the crime effects they have on the communities in which they are located and have some preliminary information, as follows. I would be hesitant to look at crime numbers alone, especially if you don’t have the ability to separate out those associated with the casino itself, there are too many other factors involved in crime increases and decreases, which is why we reached out to the jurisdictions directly to make this assessment.

    Crime, primarily theft-related crime, increases in communities when casinos are opened and present. Crime is, however, associated with the casino property and does not appear to have effect, if so not significant, in the non-casino areas nearby. This is what we expected. It is not unlike the opening of a major retailer. When a big retailer opens, there is some measure of shoplifting that always increases (I will defer my usual tirade about Proposition 47 here but consider it inserted). There will be a crime increase associated with the casino. There are many potential theft targets available in the form of parked cars in the parking lot, the most common crime committed. Its victims and suspects will be those who attend the casino, likely not the nearby neighborhoods that, for the most part, don’t yet exist. We are also finding some fraud-related activity increase but the casino itself is usually the victim, the passing of counterfeit bills, for example.

    We are also finding that casinos have extremely sophisticated security programs, much more so than the typical business. Though crime cannot be eliminated, it can be mitigated and kept in reasonable balance through the use of effective security. The law enforcement agencies of jurisdiction where casinos are located report a very good working relationship with the casinos and we do not expect our experience to be any different. There is a mechanism to discuss how a Tribe mitigates cost associated with police responses and we will be having that discussion with the Tribe should this project move forward

    There is more to degradation to crime but, overall, we are not finding a link between a casino and crime-related degradation nearby. We would, of course, expect that a casino locating in Elk Grove employ modern security strategies and cooperate with EGPD in crime and security-related matters. I am reasonably confident that they will simply from a business perspective – if they want people to come to their casino, it should be perceived as safe. Still, I think that is a better question to ask Tribal leaders to address in their public meetings.

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    Thank you for sharing this!!! Sounds like casinos do a good job keeping their visitors safe, and have a good security program in place. Good to know.

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    Maybe crime will go down in the surrounding areas, since they will have new targets in the casino πŸ˜‰

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    When we went to the NV casinos I never felt threatened. I always felt sorry for the children left in the dingy play rooms. My concern about the casino has nothing to do with the safe element. I am wondering where do all the wild life go? (secret tree hugger πŸ˜‰ )

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    @violarose 126378 wrote:

    When we went to the NV casinos I never felt threatened. I always felt sorry for the children left in the dingy play rooms. My concern about the casino has nothing to do with the safe element. I am wondering where do all the wild life go? (secret tree hugger πŸ˜‰ )

    There’s no wildlife where the casino is besides some rodents

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    I like the rodents.

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    @violarose 126378 wrote:

    When we went to the NV casinos I never felt threatened. I always felt sorry for the children left in the dingy play rooms. My concern about the casino has nothing to do with the safe element. I am wondering where do all the wild life go? (secret tree hugger πŸ˜‰ )

    hmm, that might be a business possibility right there πŸ™‚
    In the new mall/outlet space, one could rent out a spot as a per-hour child care πŸ™‚

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    There will be an environmental impact statement that will be required in order for them to build. This will include the effect the business might have on wildlife. The EIS will play a huge role in the business meeting all legal requirements to proceed with construction.

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    I think many residents have watched Back to the Future 2 too many times. They are afraid Biff will open a casino and their once small quiet town will turn in to a haven of crime and disgust…

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    @coffeebreak 126496 wrote:

    There will be an environmental impact statement that will be required in order for them to build. This will include the effect the business might have on wildlife. The EIS will play a huge role in the business meeting all legal requirements to proceed with construction.

    They are doing the EIS now. I doubt it will say much negative about the casino.

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    @cjay916 126500 wrote:

    I think many residents have watched Back to the Future 2 too many times. They are afraid Biff will open a casino and their once small quiet town will turn in to a haven of crime and disgust…

    I get it that some people don’t want a casino, and that is fine. It’s a personal preference. The hysteria though really isn’t based on anything other than fears. People think that it is going to be full of criminals and after they leave the casino they will go through the neighborhood and rape and pillage, kidnapping schools along the way

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