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Home invasion robbery in Elk Grove

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  • #174122

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    This would be another reason not to do drugs. These things are rarely random and often involve drugs, money or something of value that the criminals know is there. In this case it was 2 pounds of pot. These guys were not messing around. They had assault rifles and were dressed in law enforcement type clothing. The whole family could have been killed or seriously hurt and over what? Pot? Not worth it.

    http://www.egcitizen.com/articles/2013/11/12/news/doc52829b922508a639503311.txt

    Three armed men robbed a family of five during a home invasion in north Elk Grove on Nov. 10. Elk Grove police reported that the thieves stole marijuana during the ordeal where one assaulted the father. The entire family, including three children ages 12-16, also reportedly had their hands bound.

    The suspects remain at large.

    The incident occurred around 3 a.m. on the 8600 block of Rubia Drive. Elk Grove police spokesperson Christopher Trim reported that the family was home when three suspects kicked in the front door. Two were reportedly armed with assault rifles and one had a shotgun. The suspects were described as white males clad in black, law enforcement-style clothing. Trim said the suspects then forced the family into a room where they bounded them. A suspect struck the 43-year-old father with a rifle butt and kicked his head.

    Police reported that the thieves later fled with a blue bag carrying two pounds of processed marijuana. The father was hospitalized for his injuries.
    One suspect is described as standing five feet, eight inches tall and weighing an estimated 180 pounds. The suspect stands five feet, 10 inches tall and has a medium build. Police describe the third suspect as standing six feet, two inches tall and weighing an estimated 240 pounds.

    Readers with information about this incident can call the Elk Grove police at (916) 714-5115.

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    Clearly this is someone that someone in the family knows or is familiar with-or else how would the robbers know they had 2 pounds of processed pot on their house?

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    So will this family man get in trouble for having two pounds of pot at house?

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    How does the father explain 2 lbs of pot?

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    I don’t think he has to if he has a “recommendation”. He can just say it is for his personal use.

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    @newmom 88374 wrote:

    I don’t think he has to if he has a “recommendation”. He can just say it is for his personal use.

    With a recommendation, he can only have 1/2 a lb of marijuana in his possession. He had four times the legal amount in his possession.

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    What is street value of 2Lb?

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    An ounce is about $300. So two pounds is just under $10,000.

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    2 pounds is more than just having it for medicinal uses. Someone definitely knew about this. That’s why I said home invasions are rarely random. Someone knew something.

    The area where this took place is in a semi-rural area off Sheldon, between Elk Grove-Florin and Waterman. The homes are on 2 acre parcels mostly, so there is ample room to grow pot if a person chooses to do so.

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    @erino 88375 wrote:

    With a recommendation, he can only have 1/2 a lb of marijuana in his possession. He had four times the legal amount in his possession.

    Those are safe limit guidelines only, not a law limiting how much you can have, and state that people that are below that limit will not be prosecuted at all. People have successfully fought those guidelines and won. The reality is there is no definition of what is acceptable for personal use. As long as there is no proof of intent to distribute or sell you can have as much as you want and claim it’s all personal use.

    From http://safeaccessnow.net/countyguidelines.htm

    Patients can have any amount of cannabis consistent with their personal medical needs.
    These limits are not legally binding, other than for purposes of immunity from arrest and prosecution; they are floor amounts intended to provide a safe harbor of immunity for any patient with a bona fide recommendation to be presumed in compliance with California Health and Safety Code HS 11362.5 (Prop 215), as long as there is no indicia of sales or commercial production. The affirmative defense remains for patients in possession of larger amounts. Collectives and patients charged with intent to sell should take note of special provisions in HS 11362.7. Larger amounts may be authorized by local cities or counties.

    SB 420 Statewide Default Patient Guidelines: To be as safe as possible from arrest and prosecution, patients and caregivers should stay below the medical marijuana immunity law passed by the California legislature, HS 11362.77, which sets a minimum statewide guideline of 6 mature plants OR 12 immature plants AND up to 8 ounces of processed cannabis flowers. Physician’s note exempts larger amounts. Cities and counties empowered to set guidelines that are greater than those amounts, but not less. This is explained in an open letter from the authors of the bill. Also see the Supreme Court’s Wright decision at chrisconrad.com/expert.witness/wright.html.

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    So, here is another example of crime created because of criminalization of marijuana.

    When is the last time you heard of a home invasion to steal some booze?

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    It’s legal to drive and own a car yet people steal that. Owning jewelry is legal too. You’re trying to connect dots that aren’t there.

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    This is just another example of those pesky Nortenos attacking innocent people… DL, when are you going to learn?

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    @EGL Admin 88396 wrote:

    It’s legal to drive and own a car yet people steal that. Owning jewelry is legal too. You’re trying to connect dots that aren’t there.

    Its because a car and jewelry has value. The value of this pot is wildly inflated by the “War on Drugs” which stifles supply. People are always going to commit crime over anything that is small, portable, and has a lot of value. IE, pot, diamonds, gold, cash. Reduce the value of the pot, and the crime around it diminishes.

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    Legalizing it isn’t going to reduce the value as much as you think. Pot is not as easy to mass produce as alcohol. It’s not going to cost the same as a 6 pack or 2 Buck Chuck. You’re making a lot of assumptions when we really have no idea what will happen. You want to trade everything for what’s behind door #2.

    In a perfect world, everyone would be able to do their own thing and ingest what they want, live their own life and be free of government regulations and others telling them what to do. We don’t live in that world. What you and Al see as libertarian goals are nothing more than pipe dreams that will not happen.

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    @tomwaltman 88397 wrote:

    This is just another example of those pesky Nortenos attacking innocent people… DL, when are you going to learn?

    Are there many Caucasian Nortenos?

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    They were in disguise. They are a sneaky bunch.

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    @EGL Admin 88401 wrote:

    Legalizing it isn’t going to reduce the value as much as you think. Pot is not as easy to mass produce as alcohol. It’s not going to cost the same as a 6 pack or 2 Buck Chuck. You’re making a lot of assumptions when we really have no idea what will happen. You want to trade everything for what’s behind door #2.

    In a perfect world, everyone would be able to do their own thing and ingest what they want, live their own life and be free of government regulations and others telling them what to do. We don’t live in that world. What you and Al see as libertarian goals are nothing more than pipe dreams that will not happen.

    Contrary to your esteemed opinion, the US isn’t the only country on hte planet. Other countries have either made marijuana, and many other drugs legal, or have decriminalized it, and those countries have not gone to pot (yes, pun intended). Half of Europe has no criminal penalties for marijuana, and they don’t have rampant crime related to drugs. There is a ton of experience with this, and we have yet to have any armegeddon stories. My fear, in all of this, is that the bunch of criminals running the state will craft laws that make them money from the drug dealers, rather than enact smart legislation that will reduce costs and regulate it like we do any other physically-altering substance (alcohol, tobacco, etc).

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    We can collect money to give you a one way ticket to Europe if you want. πŸ™‚

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    @EGL Admin 88401 wrote:

    Legalizing it isn’t going to reduce the value as much as you think. Pot is not as easy to mass produce as alcohol. It’s not going to cost the same as a 6 pack or 2 Buck Chuck. You’re making a lot of assumptions when we really have no idea what will happen. You want to trade everything for what’s behind door #2.

    In a perfect world, everyone would be able to do their own thing and ingest what they want, live their own life and be free of government regulations and others telling them what to do. We don’t live in that world. What you and Al see as libertarian goals are nothing more than pipe dreams that will not happen.

    Actually its way easier to produce than alcohol. Alcohol requires equipment such as a still and a knowledge of chemistry. Marijuana is a plant. Grow it, smoke it.

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    But you can’t mass produce it like you can alcohol. You don’t just plant it and water it and voila you have pot. How you grow it determines the quality.

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    I think we might have a “farmer” instructing us here.

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    I wonder if CPS will be involved now? Someone had to know what they were doing.

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    From what I have heard it’s been an ongoing issue with this family.

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