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      FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE​​​​​​​​​​​​​
      Wilton Rancheria Recommends Elk Grove Site
      as the Preferred Alternative for Its Planned Resort and Casino

      Elk Grove, CA—June 9—Wilton Rancheria announced today that it intends to recommend that a 35.9-acre parcel along Highway 99 in the City of Elk Grove be designated as the preferred alternative by the federal Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) in its Environmental Impact Statement (EIS), prepared in response to the Tribe’s application to have land taken into trust for its planned resort and casino.

      The Tribe will hold a town hall-style meeting, at a time and location to be announced, in the City of Elk Grove to present its plans to the community, solicit feedback and answer questions and concerns.

      “This is an important milestone for the members of Wilton Rancheria, the community of Elk Grove, and the region’s economy,” said the Tribe’s Chairman, Raymond C. Hitchcock. “The resort and casino project will generate approximately 2,000 direct jobs, provide annual revenue for vital services such as police, fire, roads and schools, and support other community needs.”

      Previously, the Tribe filed a land-into-trust application for a parcel west of Highway 99 north of the City of Galt. However, the $30-plus million cost of constructing an overpass at Mingo Road “presented an insurmountable economic challenge,” Hitchcock said.

      The Draft EIS identified three potential sites for the Resort & Casino—Alternative A, near Galt; Alternative D, on the historic rancheria in Wilton; and Alternative F, in Elk Grove north of the future outlet mall.

      “We look forward to working with Wilton Rancheria and engaging the community around this project,” said Elk Grove Mayor Gary Davis. “If the proposed hotel, dining, shopping, and entertainment resort comes to our city, it will be adjacent to the planned Outlet Collection at Elk Grove and, together, they could create a powerful engine for economic growth.”

      The Howard Hughes Corporation, which owns the property along Highway 99, has entered into an option agreement for the sale of land to Wilton Rancheria. Hughes plans to build The Outlet Collection at Elk Grove on the remaining portion of the parcel.

      “We are pleased to have an agreement in place with the Wilton Rancheria that gives the Tribe a path forward with their plans for a resort and casino,” said Grant Herlitz, President of The Howard Hughes Corporation. “It should serve as an ideal complement to The Outlet Collection at Elk Grove.”

      An EIS must be prepared by the BIA in order for the land to be held in trust for the Tribe by the federal government. After the Tribe is able to obtain land held in trust, a compact between the sovereign government of Wilton Rancheria and the State of California would be required before any gaming operations could commence.

      About Wilton Rancheria
      The more than 700 current members of Wilton Rancheria are descendants of the Plains and Sierra Miwok, who lived and prospered in the Sacramento Valley. Tribal status was terminated in 1959 by the federal government and, after years of struggle, restored in June 2009. Wilton Rancheria is the only federally recognized tribe in Sacramento County. In November 2011, the Tribe adopted its modern Constitution, and since that time, tribal leadership has worked to improve the lives of its members and positively serve the community from its offices in Elk Grove.

      Contacts:
      Raymond C. Hitchcock
      916.683.6000
      rhitchcock@wiltonrancheria-nsn.gov

      Robert Magnuson
      Townsend Calkin Tapio Public Affairs
      (o) 916.551.2525
      (c) 949.290.9382
      bob@tctpa.com
      http://www.tctpa.com

    • #294003

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      I had the opportunity to meet with the head of the Wilton Rancheria last week and see the plans. If will compliment the outlet mall very well. It will be like a seamless transition to the outlets.
      They will have high end restaurants. Also very large banquet facilities and an indoor concert arena.

    • #294062

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      Not thrilled, don’t totally hate it either. It’s sure not the “Mall” we were promised some 10-15 years ago.

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      I think they likely were having trouble making the mall work on it’s own and this does bring a number of amenities that the City could use.

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      In around 2004, we had a study done in conjunction with the city, which showed that Elk Grove could support TWO malls, one being a traditional covered mall that was planned then on the now Hughes property, and a main street style mall on our (then) property on EG Blvd from Big Horn to Bruceville. We knew the city had their thumb on the scales with the consultant, and didn’t change our position of NO on the main street deal, which, as is evident now and we knew then, has been pretty much a failure nationwide with a few exceptions. Still, the retail dollars were there and available.

      Since then comparison shopping retail has all but collapsed. I was talking with one of the region’s more prominent bankers today at the Goodwill groudbreaking, and he said they have not had one loan request in recent times for retail, but they were doing apartments, hotels, and senior housing which all work well. It’s easy to be critical and point fingers, but this is a systemic change, not a blip. Other than basic services, retail is struggling like never before, and there just aren’t that many tenants expanding.

      The Howard Hughes Corporation, which owns the property along Highway 99, has entered into an option agreement for the sale of land to Wilton Rancheria. Hughes plans to build The Outlet Collection at Elk Grove on the remaining portion of the parcel.

      Companies like Hughes do not write options easily, and without a lot of strings. This would indicate something tantamount to a sale, but with conditions of approval for the tribe. I’d call done deal, subject to them satisfying whatever conditions are required for their casino project.

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      The only thing I think will be UGLY to see across the freeway is a 4 story parking garage……..am I the only one who isn’t in favor of that idea?

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      Great news! Can we also get a whitelock exit off 99?

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      @JJJXK 126203 wrote:

      Great news! Can we also get a whitelock exit off 99?

      That’s coming. Rumor has it that Cal Trans is willing to shift the freeway to mitigate the impact on the east side of 99 where the park is.

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      @kindrlindr 126202 wrote:

      The only thing I think will be UGLY to see across the freeway is a 4 story parking garage……..am I the only one who isn’t in favor of that idea?

      It’s across the freeway from what though? There are no homes. I don’t think that’s a factor at all.

    • #294063

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      @EGL Admin 126205 wrote:

      It’s across the freeway from what though? There are no homes. I don’t think that’s a factor at all.

      Across the freeway is the industrial areas on Union Park and Elkmont. There’s a few churches over there. No homes will see a parking garage from across the freeway.

    • #294025

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      I don’t want any casino here. No thank you.

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      Doesn’t bother me. I’m on the I-5 side. :biggrin:

      People are going to waste their energy complaining about it. Think it’s time for people to post those for sale signs in their homes and move.

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      @gearshark23 126208 wrote:

      Doesn’t bother me. I’m on the I-5 side. :biggrin:

      People are going to waste their energy complaining about it. Think it’s time for people to post those for sale signs in their homes and move.

      Because no one will ever take 5 and go across Elk Grove or Laguna Blvd to get there? This will have an effect on all of Elk Grove-not just the immediate neighborhood/area.

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      @newmom 126209 wrote:

      Because no one will ever take 5 and go across Elk Grove or Laguna Blvd to get there? This will have an effect on all of Elk Grove-not just the immediate neighborhood/area.

      It won’t be as bad. Yes, people will cut over. I was going to state that in my initial post but didn’t feel the need. Laguna probably not so much, EG Blvd and Hood Franklin, yes.

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      @newmom 126209 wrote:

      Because no one will ever take 5 and go across Elk Grove or Laguna Blvd to get there? This will have an effect on all of Elk Grove-not just the immediate neighborhood/area.

      Watch – this will also help fast-track the I-5/99 connector.

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      …and that’s a good thing.

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      @newmom 126207 wrote:

      I don’t want any casino here. No thank you.

      You don’t want anything here though.

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      It’s probably going to be the biggest draw to Elk Grove, especially if the city makes a deal for a convention center in the hotel. Plus, maybe EG can get some decent names for entertainment like some of the other casinos. Structured parking is better than a sea of asphalt, no? What’s the best looking building in downtown Sac as you approach southbound on I-5? Lots would say the county jail. Parking garages can look fine.

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      @EGL Admin 126213 wrote:

      You don’t want anything here though.

      What would she like to see here?

    • #294064

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      The connector is a slightly better version of Laguna or Elk Grove Blvd. with 12-15 stop lights it will allow for further sprawl south of EG’s existing city limits. After build out the connector will be no faster then EG or Laguna Blvd. I-5 and 99.

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      Bring it on!!! Great news!!! I’m excited to see that the plans include an indoor concert arena. It will be nice to have local concerts and not have to drive out to Lincoln. What’s also great is that it will bring 1000 jobs to Elk Grove. Very excited!!!

    • #294027

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      @EGL Admin 126213 wrote:

      You don’t want anything here though.

      You say that, but you are wrong. I want things in places that make sense for the people that live in the neighborhoods being most affected.
      I’m not willing to sacrifice the standard of living of people that live here for minimum wage jobs and some quick money.

      But yes, I don’t want a casino. (but it’s location near the freeway is far better than the middle of the city), and the location of other things is usually the issue. However, I understand there is nothing we can do to stop it, so I’m not wasting any effort to try and stop it.

      Again-what good is it to make ELk Grove a “destination city” if in the process we make it an undesirable place to live?

    • #294057

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      Did you try to stop Costco?

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      @newmom 126218 wrote:

      You say that, but you are wrong. I want things in places that make sense for the people that live in the neighborhoods being most affected.

      Fine, but this is not a “neighborhood” location or use, nor is it zoned as such. It is a REGIONAL DESTINATION location, and always has been. You can say that this or any large attraction will somehow affect your neighborhood traffic, and you might be right, but the spirit of the use hasn’t changed–the specified use has. What you want is a low impact, high paying use in a zone that was never intended for those characteristics.

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      Just because it’s not in close proximity to MY neighborhood doesn’t mean that poorly placed development is fair to people that do live there. It also doesn’t mean that any development is better than no development. I don’t think a casino is any good for this city, no matter how far away from my house it is.

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      I did nothing to try and stop Costco because there was no point.

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      @newmom 126221 wrote:

      Just because it’s not in close proximity to MY neighborhood doesn’t mean that poorly placed development is fair to people that do live there. It also doesn’t mean that any development is better than no development. I don’t think a casino is any good for this city, no matter how far away from my house it is.

      I’ll say it again–Ione is calling you 🙂 Or even Wilton. Can’t have it both ways, and there’s no “deal tree” where developers pick who they want and they automatically sign up.

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      I get that there’s not a massive amount of businesses waiting to jump and develop new properties…I have no interest in living in a rural area, despite what you guys think. I do want to live in a nice, family community, with services and amenities that reflect a desire to promote and protect that image. A casino does NON of that. A giant water park in the middle of a neighborhood doesn’t do that. 40 gas pumps and big box stores within walking distance of extremely large high schools, middle schools, elementary schools, and public libraries don’t do that.

    • #294018

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      They’re like plastics. Better living through chemistry :Tongue sticking out

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      What the hell is that link that was added to my post? Says it was added by “skimgrabber”?

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      Doc’s playing with some advertising.

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      You do know that it’s not going to be a giant water park right?

      It seems like everything that is coming to Elk Grove you’re against.

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      Yes, but not because the city didn’t want it the water park. It was another attempt by Davis at making Elk Grove a “destination city”. In the middle of a neighborhood.

      And yes, I would say that almost everything that Davis has been attempting to bring to Elk Grove lately I disagree with. They aren’t things that I desire in the city, and given the public feedback, a lot of people agree with me.

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      I think the casino is far enough away from people’s homes. It’s kind of in a rural area. Newmom, if it was in my backyard I would probably have some concern but it’s not. Elk Grove needs more things to do and entertainment for people. I enjoy Thunder Valley very much. I see a couple of concerts there every summer. I often stay at their hotel when I do and enjoy the restaurants and entertainment. I guess different strokes for different folks.

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      Elk Grove needs more entertainment. That is correct.

      Most people leave the city because it’s so damn boring. But then again, we can’t have nice things without someone getting robbed outside etc.

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      This is not a knock to you Newmom but a nice family community, with services and amenities that reflect a desire to promote and protect that image. Yeah…..Elk Grove has done a great job with that! The only thing I can find in Elk Grove are nail salons and dentists. A mall, museums, more bars (yep that’s right!), nonchain restaurants, better city events (brewfest could of been way better!!), things to do for our children. I can care less about food trucks that serve artery clogging disgusting food. I often spend my money outside of the city because my two department store choices to buy clothes is Target and Kohls. I am totally excited about the Elk Grove Costco. I drive out to Lodi now to shop at Costco. There is absolutely nothing to do here for teenagers. Oh wait….there is a bowling alley but have you been to that place past 10pm? I guess I am in agreement with you about the poor planning for our growth in Elk Grove.

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      Totally boring!!!

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      I can tell you for an absolute fact that one reason there aren’t more club type entertainment venues here is because of that bowling alley. They look at it and tell me they cannot take the risk of having a bad crowd driving everyone else out. These are mostly midtown operators–not Roseville or Folsom–so they have their share of security issues there. That should tell us something.

      That’s not going to happen at the casino. Those are big operations with tight security and they do not put up with that bullshit.

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      The bowling alley doesn’t have to put up with that BS either. They allow everything that happens there.

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      I think I am confused about the area this will be in……isn’t it just south of Kaiser?

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      @kindrlindr 126237 wrote:

      I think I am confused about the area this will be in……isn’t it just south of Kaiser?

      Between Kaiser and the mall

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      Ok that’s where I pictured it. I don’t really have an opinion either way about it because I don’t have knowledge about the effects it will have on EG. Do you think it will help fill the mall “occupancy” faster?

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      Yay ! More things to do in Elkgrove . 🙂

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      I lived in Elkgrove but always have to go somewhere else for entertainment . Elkgrove have nothing to do not even a shopping mall or an outlet . This casino will add more fun to Elkgrove and make it a nicer city . I can’t wait for other project to be done too after all Elkgrove will be so much nicer . Go Elkgrove !

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      @kindrlindr 126241 wrote:

      Ok that’s where I pictured it. I don’t really have an opinion either way about it because I don’t have knowledge about the effects it will have on EG. Do you think it will help fill the mall “occupancy” faster?

      I think the mall owners believe that and that’s why they are doing this. You’ll have hundreds of people coming to the casino each day and some of them may shop at the mall. I think for the mall owner it’s a no brainer. As I’ve said on Facebook I would be interested in finding out how Thunder Valley has impacted that area. Any increase in crime? There are studies, mostly all older ones that show in some cases crime does increase.

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      Casinos have pretty good security. It’s not a like a night club or bar where people get drunk and unruly. They are watching everything.

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      It will be an interesting addition to our city, that’s for sure. All the people who come to the park events would have an after party location (other than my front lawn)

      I never bought by vacant land because you just never know what will be built……if you build it, THEY will come. (might be a good thing or a bad thing, time will tell…..)

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      @EGL Admin 126248 wrote:

      I think the mall owners believe that and that’s why they are doing this. You’ll have hundreds of people coming to the casino each day and some of them may shop at the mall. I think for the mall owner it’s a no brainer. As I’ve said on Facebook I would be interested in finding out how Thunder Valley has impacted that area. Any increase in crime? There are studies, mostly all older ones that show in some cases crime does increase.

      we have dozens of friends and know many businesses in Roseville. I’ve never heard one negative mention of TV

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      Thunder Valley is pretty isolated from the bulk of Lincoln, Rocklin, Roseville. They might build up around it eventually but it’s not right off a freeway frontage with large commercial properties adjacent nor approved housing developments (Sterling Meadows). I’m not aware of a comparable Indian Casino in Nor Cal but I’m sure there’s one out there.

      Since the city has little say about it coming or not I hope they have a say on the quality of the project like a nice facade with rocks, stone, waterfalls, etc. Something that’s top shelf and not cheap.

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      Just read TV had a stabbing last night…Isolated? Maybe but thought I’d throw it out there since TV gets high praise as an example of what could come to EG.

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      @Bainc 126257 wrote:

      Thunder Valley is pretty isolated from the bulk of Lincoln, Rocklin, Roseville. They might build up around it eventually but it’s not right off a freeway frontage with large commercial properties adjacent nor approved housing developments (Sterling Meadows). I’m not aware of a comparable Indian Casino in Nor Cal but I’m sure there’s one out there.

      Since the city has little say about it coming or not I hope they have a say on the quality of the project like a nice facade with rocks, stone, waterfalls, etc. Something that’s top shelf and not cheap.

      I saw the initial renderings and it looks pretty good. I don’t think it’s going to be cheap looking. They are supposed to have some photos for public viewing soon. I am working on a Q & A with the head of the tribe to address some of the questions raised by people. There are some legitimate questions and there is a lot of “sky is falling” stuff too. One guy on FB said the casino is “literally right across the street from Cosumnes Oaks.” Another guy said there will be “thousands of busses a day from San Jose.” A lot of people don’t understand the whole concept. Some are mad at the city planners for allowing it. People are so uninformed about the process that it is really sad. A lot of people are just spewing nonsense. I think once people see what it will look like they may change their minds.

      Rumor is that Dave and Buster’s maybe coming to the mall. That would be a nice get for the city and for families. We definitely need something like that.

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      While I have always disagreed with the Indian Tribe Casinos, I have no quarrel with them. I will not spend my money in a casino, but I have no problem if others spend their money in them. I have been in Thunder Valley once and Jackson Rancheria once. I walked through Thunder to just case it out. It was nice and clean. Never came up against trouble. I get more nervous walking around Walmart than Thunder Valley. I did gamble at Jackson though. I signed up for a casino card and they put $30 on card as casino credit. I used that card on the slots and I walked out with $50. Granted this was six years ago, but it was clean and safe. My experience is very limited. Both times I went it was daytime and a little slow. I don’t know how it is during a concert at night.

      We hear more about the bowling alley crime than we hear about casino crime. Last month a woman was mugged walking in the Winco parking lot. Are muggers camped out in the casino parking lots? Well, if you get a huge win and start strutting around like you own the place, then I would bet you that you probably will get mugged. But that would be a crime of opportunity.

      My first choice would not be a casino. Realistically, I see it working though. Next to the mall and no housing development nearby, it is not a bad place for it.

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      @norules 126266 wrote:

      My first choice would not be a casino. Realistically, I see it working though. Next to the mall and no housing development nearby, it is not a bad place for it.

      Sterling Meadows is an approved housing development about a tenth of a mile west from the Casino location. The future homeowners will at least know what’s coming or perhaps the Casino is built first. Either way it’s not accurate to say no housing development is nearby.

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      Thank you for the correction, Bainc.

      Nearby to me are actual houses where people are living currently, not future homeowners who have not bought the houses yet. Right now, I am more concerned with the older houses that are along Poppy Ridge next to Whitelock. Those are the closest houses to the casino. If someone wants to buy a home next to a casino that is planned or built, that is their choice. I hope the information will presented to those future homeowners though.

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      I agree, future homeowners need to do their homework before buying. Nothing worse then hearing new homeowners complain about air traffic from an airport that’s been there for 50 years.

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      I guess as one who is at least a somewhat third party bystander as I don’t live in EG, I do believe the casino could be a net plus, maybe even for home values. Roseville has the mall and pretty much owns the regional shopping now, Folsom has the lake and outstanding community and some shopping and entertainment facilities, and Elk Grove has none of these. To think that world class entertainment is going to come to Elk Grove is dreaming, but at least the casino could provide some name entertainment–maybe older names, maybe not the top names, but at least it’s something. Look at the concert schedule for Thunder Valley–it’s VERY good. An unattached community center would be lucky to attract a troupe of Rotary Club tap dancers. Now we have a shot at some trade shows, conventions, etc.

      Some of the food is pretty good. We really like the buffet at Red Hawk on the weekdays for $10-$12. The higher end restaurants there are OK. Nice, food isn’t spectacular. I’ve heard TV has some good food too.

      Most people on this site aren’t big gamblers, so that part probably isn’t of much interest, but it will be to a lot of the target area. Consider it an amenity, because if done well like TV, it very well could be, especially when adjacent to the outlet mall if that too is done well.

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      Seeing LC post, I took a look at the entertainment events that are happening at Thunder Valley. You have Beach Boys, Kenny Rogers, Diana Ross, Boston, Rick Springfield, Steve Martin and Martin Short, etc. I can see these shows being a draw for the people that have money, which is their target. Everybody I listed, I would go see. Ticket prices are a bit high, but people are obviously buying them. This would be a good question to ask at the town hall meetings. What kind of entertainment will be shown at the casino? Anybody writing these questions down?

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      @LC 126277 wrote:

      I guess as one who is at least a somewhat third party bystander as I don’t live in EG, I do believe the casino could be a net plus, maybe even for home values. Roseville has the mall and pretty much owns the regional shopping now, Folsom has the lake and outstanding community and some shopping and entertainment facilities, and Elk Grove has none of these. To think that world class entertainment is going to come to Elk Grove is dreaming, but at least the casino could provide some name entertainment–maybe older names, maybe not the top names, but at least it’s something. Look at the concert schedule for Thunder Valley–it’s VERY good. An unattached community center would be lucky to attract a troupe of Rotary Club tap dancers. Now we have a shot at some trade shows, conventions, etc.

      Some of the food is pretty good. We really like the buffet at Red Hawk on the weekdays for $10-$12. The higher end restaurants there are OK. Nice, food isn’t spectacular. I’ve heard TV has some good food too.

      Most people on this site aren’t big gamblers, so that part probably isn’t of much interest, but it will be to a lot of the target area. Consider it an amenity, because if done well like TV, it very well could be, especially when adjacent to the outlet mall if that too is done well.

      I don’t think the the benefits are greater than all the negatives, plus there is my entire opposition to the manner in which Indian gaming profits have been handled and the casinos run. Oh, to go back and change my vote on that issue 15 or so years ago…

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      I think you need to stick with questions that can be answered. They will never be able to guarantee any specific acts and it is in their best interests to get the best acts possible.

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      @LC 126277 wrote:

      I guess as one who is at least a somewhat third party bystander as I don’t live in EG, I do believe the casino could be a net plus, maybe even for home values. Roseville has the mall and pretty much owns the regional shopping now, Folsom has the lake and outstanding community and some shopping and entertainment facilities, and Elk Grove has none of these. To think that world class entertainment is going to come to Elk Grove is dreaming, but at least the casino could provide some name entertainment–maybe older names, maybe not the top names, but at least it’s something. Look at the concert schedule for Thunder Valley–it’s VERY good. An unattached community center would be lucky to attract a troupe of Rotary Club tap dancers. Now we have a shot at some trade shows, conventions, etc.

      Some of the food is pretty good. We really like the buffet at Red Hawk on the weekdays for $10-$12. The higher end restaurants there are OK. Nice, food isn’t spectacular. I’ve heard TV has some good food too.

      Most people on this site aren’t big gamblers, so that part probably isn’t of much interest, but it will be to a lot of the target area. Consider it an amenity, because if done well like TV, it very well could be, especially when adjacent to the outlet mall if that too is done well.

      That’s kind of how I look at it too. I think it’s going to be a nice amenity. The last thing the tribe will want is crime associated with the casino. If Elk Grove does build the soccer complex for youth soccer over off Grantline and have tournaments, they will need hotels for that. I don’t know if what we have existing is good enough. This would be closer.

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      Do we even have any hotels on that side of town?

      Not including the Calvine 99 area.

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      @gearshark23 126285 wrote:

      Do we even have any hotels on that side of town?

      Not including the Calvine 99 area.

      West of 99? or East? None on the east side yet. There is a Marriott coming over east of 99 near Bond.

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      Think Gearshark meant on the east side of town along Hwy 99. Hilton and Holiday Inn are near Laguna/99. Marriott is coming near Green Acres soon.

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      They had talked about a hotel going in in the lot just near Hampton Oaks…but that was years ago. I can’t see it being a good idea since its not accessible to the freeway without going around the park.

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      @norules 126278 wrote:

      Seeing LC post, I took a look at the entertainment events that are happening at Thunder Valley. You have Beach Boys, Kenny Rogers, Diana Ross, Boston, Rick Springfield, Steve Martin and Martin Short, etc. I can see these shows being a draw for the people that have money, which is their target. Everybody I listed, I would go see. Ticket prices are a bit high, but people are obviously buying them.

      Well, almost. A friend went to the Dead and Co. concert this weekend in Charlotte, and gave me the link to the entire performance. He knows the Grateful Dead are my all time favorite, and he’s the same. Even with three of the original GD people, I will pass on Dead and Co this summer at Thunder Valley.

      Are the ticket prices that high? I don’t remember that. I thought we usually got two pretty good seats for under $200 out the door. Heck two good seats at the Giants are pushing $500.

      Edit: Yes, they’re up some, about $300 a pair now for Steve Martin. We paid about $240 a pair for O’Reilly and Miller in Reno. In the ballpark though. I think the last Reno concert we saw was Dennis Miller in a small venue for about $60 ea., hotel room $40. Recession prices!

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      Totally forgot about holiday inn and Hilton. I had a party at the Hilton before. Yes, I was talking about east of 99.. There’s 3 over here by I-5.

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      @LC 126292 wrote:

      Well, almost. A friend went to the Dead and Co. concert this weekend in Charlotte, and gave me the link to the entire performance. He knows the Grateful Dead are my all time favorite, and he’s the same. Even with three of the original GD people, I will pass on Dead and Co this summer at Thunder Valley.

      Are the ticket prices that high? I don’t remember that. I thought we usually got two pretty good seats for under $200 out the door. Heck two good seats at the Giants are pushing $500.

      Edit: Yes, they’re up some, about $300 a pair now for Steve Martin. We paid about $240 a pair for O’Reilly and Miller in Reno. In the ballpark though. I think the last Reno concert we saw was Dennis Miller in a small venue for about $60 ea., hotel room $40. Recession prices!

      Holy crap they are really that much? I haven’t gone to a concert in close to 20 years. I had no idea they had gone up so much. Gone are the days of waiting in line all night with your friends at the local music store/Ticketmaster. Guess we are priced out of concerts.

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      Ticketmaster really drives up the cost, they can be $20 per now. And, they charge you for printing your own tickets! My thing is if we can’t get good to great seats, I won’t go if it’s a large venue. Some of the casino shows are so small there’s no bad seats, and those are probably the best deal. There are not that many acts worth the price IMO.

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      We have tickets to see Maroon 5 at the new Golden One Center in October. I think with tax and surcharge it’s like $100 a ticket. We are going to see Train at the Ironstone Amphitheater in Murphys and those were expensive too. The surcharge is crazy.

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      I am torn on this issue. If they build a nice casino, with convention centers, theater, restaurants, etc. Could be just what we need to get the mall going again, bring some events, concerts, etc to Elk Grove?

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      I also looked at TV’s concert lineup. Some interesting acts but holy smokes those tickets are not cheap and that didn’t include any surcharge. $28 was the cheapest seat for any act with average seats around $80. Some acts the cheap seats were $50. What happened to cheap entertainment to get people to gamble? Not surprised I’ve been priced out of Kings, Giants, movies, and concerts for a long time. Thankfully I can still find hiking or backpacking for nearly free and enjoy it much more anyway. Sheesh.

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      You all need to come out to the Sacramento Republic soccer matches! Reasonably-priced tickets, food trucks at every game, and and one of the best selections of beer outside of a Beerfest.

      Of course, I’m setting myself up for a comment from Doc…let’s see, his comment might be “But then you have to watch a soccer match.”

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      @SteveB6509 126303 wrote:

      You all need to come out to the Sacramento Republic soccer matches! Reasonably-priced tickets, food trucks at every game, and and one of the best selections of beer outside of a Beerfest.

      Of course, I’m setting myself up for a comment from Doc…let’s see, his comment might be “But then you have to watch a soccer match.”

      Pretty much. 🙂

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